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Team Selection

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:19 am
by Hans_Lemurson
I thought I'd jumpstart the formation of teams by taking some initiative.

We will have 5 teams, and they will each be named after the 5 colors in "Magic: The Gathering" and/or "Master of Magic".
This post will serve to keep track of who is on what team.
Step 1: All Captains must choose a color!
A Captain fundamentally has to be responsible enough to speak FOR the team, and speak TO the team. They don't need to be the most skilled, just be in charge of making sure the team *works*.
Step 2: Captains should create a player preference list with as many players as they wish. A fair algorithm will distribute players onto teams.
Step 3: Players wishing to play together can arrange swaps with other teams, provided their captains do not object.


Listed Below is the limited team selection that took place before the new plan. These team assignments are no longer guaranteed.
Green/Nature:
Team Captain: Hans_Lemurson
Members: Zoe, louis94, emilio

Red/Chaos: (Говорить по-русски полезно.)(speaking russian is helpful)
Team Captain: Dim
Members: kamBLR, soon

Blue/Sorcery:
Team Captain: jwrober
Members: Kingi, Alfred, Joy

White/Life:
Team Captain: cgalik
Members: chill

Black/Death:
Team Captain: xander
Members: Lord_P, Wahazar, shoter

Players who have hit "Confirm" so far:
Corbeau
cgalik (white)
chill (white)
soon (red)
rocknrolf
kamBLR (red)
xander (black)
jwrober (blue)
Alfred (blue)
Wahazar (black)
Hans_Lemurson (green)
Joy (blue)
emilio (green)
Dim (red)
Lord_P(black)
zoe (green)
shoter(black)
Kingi (blue)
MOLIX
anaxagoras
kunki
ghamath
JamesNYC
Narti
louis94(green)
Orisson
pieronjeden
Momo
wolfie31
SKB
zoltan
ferg
Temmikael

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:20 am
by Hans_Lemurson
It looks a little lonely here, so I'll start by claiming the captaincy of GREEN TEAM.

Who's next?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:50 pm
by kamBLR
=member of red=

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:05 pm
by wieder
Please reply here if you are willing to be a team captain. If we can't make teams then this game will be teamless.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:37 am
by jwrober
I am willing to be a team leader, however I am relatively new to LT and don't want to step on any toes of the more experienced players that might want to be a team lead. If I was going to be a leader, I think Blue/Sorcery would be my pick. I am also happy to be on any team as a member.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:25 pm
by cgalik
I am willing, but think we should just go teamless.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:57 pm
by Hans_Lemurson
cgalik wrote:I am willing, but think we should just go teamless.
Teams can be disbanded easier than they can be formed. Form teams now, decide if we like it later.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:00 am
by wieder
Indeed. It's more easy to disband at a later time.

Another thing is that even if the game is teamless you can ally with the players you like before the game even starts. In this case please try to be fair and don't form an alliance including all the top players :)

Now, here is another idea. I'm not sure if this would work but here it is anyway:

Tech trading off even inside teams. We could set up a game with max 6 winners. The 6 winners scenario would be for players playing teamless. However there could be also teams but those teams would have max 3 or 4 members to compensate the advantage the players will get from playing with others from start. No tech trading but gold trading enabled with maybe 20% gold tax.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:48 am
by Wahazar
Why tech trading off inside teams? In case of small teams, tech trading make sense.

BTW, how team recruitment looks like?

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:51 am
by wieder
If LT45 is going to be a team game, we can have tech trading enabled inside teams. However if it's teamless or mixed teamless teams game then tech trading will be off.

You can see the status for the team captain selection from this thread. That's all I know :)

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:17 pm
by zoe
Any unusual color works for me. So I'll join Hans Lemurson on team Green, if it's OK with him :)

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:42 pm
by Hans_Lemurson
Wahazar wrote:BTW, how team recruitment looks like?
If you want to be a Team Captain, say so, and you'll get your pick of the remaining colors. Afterwards we will ask other players to join our teams, and then argue and complain about who got the "best" players.

A Captain fundamentally has to be responsible enough to speak FOR the team, and speak TO the team. They don't need to be the most skilled, just be in charge of making sure the team *works*.
zoe wrote:Any unusual color works for me. So I'll join Hans Lemurson on team Green, if it's OK with him :)
Requests to join a particular team will also be honored. If teams look unbalanced, then we can discuss trading players around like footballers.

(I'm not 100% sure yet on how one would go about contacting each of the potential players...we may have to end up assigning them to teams if they cannot be contacted.)

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:02 pm
by Corbeau
If they cannot be contacted, then you don’t want them on the team.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:49 pm
by fran
wieder wrote: You can see the status for the team captain selection from this thread. That's all I know :)
ROTFL.
More popcorn please.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:26 pm
by wieder
Popcorn?

Let's see if we can get enough captains and if we can figure out the teams after that.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:09 pm
by cgalik
Corbeau wrote:If they cannot be contacted, then you don’t want them on the team.
Then they can be on my team.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:39 am
by Hans_Lemurson
cgalik wrote:
Corbeau wrote:If they cannot be contacted, then you don’t want them on the team.
Then they can be on my team.
Which team would that be, Captain CGalik?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:44 am
by cgalik
Captain Underpants selects team Brown. :)

Haha JK team whitey tighties are good too. :)

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:40 am
by Wahazar
Hans_Lemurson wrote:
Wahazar wrote:BTW, how team recruitment looks like?
If you want to be a Team Captain, say so, and you'll get your pick of the remaining colors.
What if I want to be just team member? And what if I want to play with certain other player in same team?
I'm new in this community, thus have no idea how players are assigned to the teams - they ask team leaders for, or team leaders invite them, or random assignment?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:22 am
by zoe
I'm new in this community, thus have no idea how players are assigned to the teams - they ask team leaders for, or team leaders invite them, or random assignment?
Isn't' it the first time we get to pick our team?

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:08 pm
by Corbeau
Why is everybody here afraid to make a fixed proposal? We can debate this forever, there is never a perfect solution. There is a thread somewhere with my proposal, also Fran suggested a new element which addsup to my proposal quite nicely. It’s a bit difficult for me to search for it now because I’m on a mobile, but look for it. Please everybody say aye or nay. Also, I propose the following team leaders as per my and Fran’sproposal: Hand, Wieder, Cgalik, Zoltan, Xandr, LordP, Dim, Soon (hehe, dim-soon :) ). In no particular order. If anyone else wants it badly, he goes in front. If anyone doesn’t want it, he’s off t(e list.

Please vote or make a new proposal.

If this doesn’t go through and no fixed proposal are made, it’s a teamless game.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:51 pm
by wieder
Well we just need the team captains who are able to pick team member in turn once the signups close.

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:44 pm
by jwrober
Like I mentioned earlier, I am fine being a team member. Just put my name in hat for a leader spot in an attempt to keep the process moving. I am totally fine deferring to more seasoned players. I can play on any team.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:54 am
by xandr
Oh, I'm nominated as a leader haha. Well if it comes to that no one else wants to step forward (hello old timers?) I could do it for whatever color. I certainly know very little about majority of the players, so I doubt I can take good picks unassisted. At the same time I'd love to play a team game so if that's what it takes then sign me up.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:40 am
by Hans_Lemurson
Corbeau wrote:Why is everybody here afraid to make a fixed proposal? We can debate this forever, there is never a perfect solution. There is a thread somewhere with my proposal, also Fran suggested a new element which addsup to my proposal quite nicely. It’s a bit difficult for me to search for it now because I’m on a mobile, but look for it. Please everybody say aye or nay. Also, I propose the following team leaders as per my and Fran’sproposal: Hand, Wieder, Cgalik, Zoltan, Xandr, LordP, Dim, Soon (hehe, dim-soon :) ). In no particular order. If anyone else wants it badly, he goes in front. If anyone doesn’t want it, he’s off t(e list.

Please vote or make a new proposal.

If this doesn’t go through and no fixed proposal are made, it’s a teamless game.
Could you explain in more detail what you mean by a "Fixed Proposal"?
This is your thread: http://forum.longturn.org/viewtopic.php?id=1023
This is Fran's thread: http://forum.longturn.org/viewtopic.php?id=1035

Could you explain in very simple terms so that the very stupid (such as me) can understand what you are getting at and how it differs from what I am doing right now?