"This" being the way I'm attempting to right now by arbitrarily assigning the few people who speak up?xandr wrote:I'm ok with not being a captain and being on red team, but then again I don't think this is the best way to form the teams.
A wild Corbeau has appeared! (added to confirmed list)Corbeau wrote:Me! Me!
As for selection, someone made a good suggestion. Five people will hardly be online at the same time so maybe team leaders should make a list and then a selection can be made automatically. Doesn't even have to be admin. Publish the lists, make a random draw who is 1st, 2nd etc. and process basically runs by itself.
I'll mark it down.Wahazar wrote:I propose Wahazar and shoter as team Black members.
Meh, colors are a useful shorthand. Once the game begins you can call yourself whatever you like.Corbeau wrote:Highly relevant comment: with five teams, maybe not hang onto colour names? Maybe animals, or whatever comes into the members' mind?
Wow, Dim and Soon on the same team. Scary. I was impressed by both of you in LT44. I'll write down Soon as a member of Red team, but you don't get any more veterans!Dim wrote:I wish I could have Soon on my team. I talked with him. He does not mind. If the other players agree, then I'm ready to take any player to the team.
xandr, I picked black team because it was empty, if you are unhappy with this, just don't hesitate to send me message.xandr wrote:Folks, I think your missing the point, this game is not going to work with random "I pick X for Y", or at least not going to work for me. We either have a formal process with clear rules or don't count me as a captain.
Not too late. We're muddling our way through the team-selection process right at the moment. I'll add you to Green Team.emilio wrote:Hey folks,
I'd like to be in the green team, please.
I hope I'm not too late, I just saw the forum today.
Emilio
Clear rules would be what I and someone else suggested and some people, including you, agreed.Wahazar wrote:If talking about clear rules: could you elaborate, how they looks like.
Both methods are not working, second one because seems that team leaders are looking one on each other waiting for someone else turn... while time is flowing, I mean this pregame counter, does it matter?Corbeau wrote: Version 1: All team leaders stand in line and sequentially, one by one, pick one player. problem: All five team leaders will never be online at the same time.
Version 2: All team leaders make a complete list of preferences and then players are picked from those lists, one by one into each team.
As I've already said, to do the proper picking you need preference lists, and to make preference lists you need to lock the list of participants, it's that easy! I'm not looking at any one, I'm just waiting for the sign up to be closed so every captain can make a list of their own. And you know, if you really-really-really want to play in the same team with someone specific, just become a captain and put them at the top of your list. And with a bit of luck you're going to get what you want.Wahazar wrote:seems that team leaders are looking one on each other waiting for someone else turn... while time is flowing
Version 2 works well in theory, but making a preference list seems like a lot of work. Ranking 25 acquaintances and internet-strangers from most favored to least favored so that you can randomly get one from each skill bracket seems like it's more trouble than its worth. It also has the potential to break up teams of players who would like to play together.Wahazar wrote:Both methods are not working, second one because seems that team leaders are looking one on each other waiting for someone else turn... while time is flowing, I mean this pregame counter, does it matter?Corbeau wrote: Version 1: All team leaders stand in line and sequentially, one by one, pick one player. problem: All five team leaders will never be online at the same time.
Version 2: All team leaders make a complete list of preferences and then players are picked from those lists, one by one into each team.
Whole idea with 5 teams was mainly to avoid deliberations about possible lack of team balance, thus in my opinion there is no need to be so cautious with team picking.
HHHHMMMMMMMMMM..........fran wrote:Hahaha, you can just let Lemurson finish the job. Which also means, captains are obsolete. Kunki and orrison to white. If you do alfred and joy to blue there are 5 players left unknown to me that can be assigned randomly to every team. And bingo!
If anybody objects the result, you can fallback to captains and do picking stuff.
What if....what if we put our faith in some random guy (with an inflated ego) who appointed himself the arbiter of team-selection without the consent, consultation, or approval of the community and let him make player assignments based on vague criteria and personal whims?xandr wrote:Thanks for summarizing Corbeau.
As I've already said, to do the proper picking you need preference lists, and to make preference lists you need to lock the list of participants, it's that easy! I'm not looking at any one, I'm just waiting for the sign up to be closed so every captain can make a list of their own. And you know, if you really-really-really want to play in the same team with someone specific, just become a captain and put them at the top of your list. And with a bit of luck you're going to get what you want.Wahazar wrote:seems that team leaders are looking one on each other waiting for someone else turn... while time is flowing
So, my question is to whoever is organizer here (I'm not sure is it wieder or you Wahazar), do we have our final list of players? And who's going to administer the process?
And you believe my haphazard and arbitrary method of assigning players to teams doesn't give you the choices you want?xandr wrote:Ranking 25 players is not much work, you can rank first five and dump the rest in any order if you prefer to do so. It's about having a choice. As for breaking up I covered this before, but in addition to that after teams get selected we can trade players between teams too, whenever both captains agree.
I absolutely agree with all of the above. It is necessary to finish the begun and to receive result. If this makes it easier for you to form teams, then I agree to any part of my team and to any participation in it (captain or just a player).Hans_Lemurson wrote:And you believe my haphazard and arbitrary method of assigning players to teams doesn't give you the choices you want?xandr wrote:Ranking 25 players is not much work, you can rank first five and dump the rest in any order if you prefer to do so. It's about having a choice. As for breaking up I covered this before, but in addition to that after teams get selected we can trade players between teams too, whenever both captains agree.
Fair enough.
If you want to take charge of this fairer method of selecting teams, that would be great. Make your own thread defining procedures and I'll be happy to participate.
In the meantime, I will continue with my original efforts here to ensure that at least one 5-team roster will exist for LT45. I'm doing all this because I didn't want to play a Free-for-All game yet, and saw that if I took no action, nobody else would.
OK, I understand now. I enlisted to your team, because I thought that you are waiting for anyone, because your team was empty, sorry for misunderstood. Please remove me from black team.xandr wrote: As I've already said, to do the proper picking you need preference lists, and to make preference lists you need to lock the list of participants, it's that easy! I'm not looking at any one, I'm just waiting for the sign up to be closed so every captain can make a list of their own
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And who's going to administer the process?
I have no clue, who, and who is who here.xandr wrote:And who's going to administer the process?