#26 2013-07-05 00:03:57

det0r
Player
Posts: 166

Re: Idler

Why is Deragh delegated to Nevermind (cgalik's team) not me?

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#27 2013-07-05 10:56:22

NeverMind
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From: Slovakia
Posts: 16

Re: Idler

I don't know why he delegated me... I wrote to him.

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#28 2013-07-05 11:51:38

det0r
Player
Posts: 166

Re: Idler

He hasn't responded to any of my emails so if he delegated/responds to you can you please ask him to contact me? For now akfaew has fixed it by re-delegating to me, it wasn't a major issue.

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#29 2013-07-05 12:11:26

NeverMind
Player
From: Slovakia
Posts: 16

Re: Idler

Of course, I will. I just hope he isn't on a vacation.

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#30 2013-07-06 21:27:05

mmm2
Player
Posts: 608

Re: Idler

hello

Joris on our team still hasn't moved. would it be possible to extend turn 0 for another day? He said he would play...

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#31 2013-07-07 02:37:36

mmm2
Player
Posts: 608

Re: Idler

joris is here

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#32 2013-07-07 07:14:29

edrim
Ganoes Paran
Posts: 479

Re: Idler

We have two idle players.
Please delegate elpollodiabolo and topyli to me.

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#33 2013-07-07 08:50:30

akfaew
Administrator
Posts: 622

Re: Idler

Xercise controls: hasp93 chuck
det0r controls: Deragh mmm2

I think this is wrong, and a line needs to be drawn. Please assign delegations so as nobody controls two nations.

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#34 2013-07-07 09:59:11

Kryon
Administrator
Posts: 363

Re: Idler

akfaew wrote:

Xercise controls: hasp93 chuck
det0r controls: Deragh mmm2

I think this is wrong, and a line needs to be drawn. Please assign delegations so as nobody controls two nations.


Indeed! why does det0r control mmm2 who is not idle anyways?

Akfaew perhaps you can open signups again to recruit replacements for idle players?

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#35 2013-07-07 10:19:10

edrim
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Posts: 479

Re: Idler

edrim wrote:

We have two idle players.
Please delegate elpollodiabolo and topyli to me.

Please delegate elpollodiabolo to edrim
Please delegate topyli to mrsynical

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#36 2013-07-07 10:34:14

edrim
Ganoes Paran
Posts: 479

Re: Idler

edrim wrote:
edrim wrote:

We have two idle players.
Please delegate elpollodiabolo and topyli to me.

Please delegate elpollodiabolo to edrim
Please delegate topyli to mrsynical

Please delegate elpollodiabolo to edrim
Please delegate xandr to mrsynical

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#37 2013-07-07 12:57:23

akfaew
Administrator
Posts: 622

Re: Idler

The player NeverMind from our team did not log in yet. I will set delegation for his nation to myself.

Never mind, he did log in, just late.

Last edited by akfaew (2013-07-07 12:58:52)

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#38 2013-07-07 14:17:00

edrim
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Posts: 479

Re: Idler

edrim wrote:

Please delegate elpollodiabolo to edrim
Please delegate xandr to mrsynical

elpollodiabolo has logged, please change it to topyli, "topyli delegate to edrim", he wasnt suppose to not login in first turn but it has happen.

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#39 2013-07-07 18:20:41

Xercise
Player
Posts: 95

Re: Idler

I beg for forgiveness, I will find another team mate to take on Chuck or hasp93 instead of me as soon as possible, so that I do not infringe the "max 1 delegation per player" rule. Hasp93 is on vacation and Chuck is an idler.

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#40 2013-07-08 02:31:57

kevin551
Player
Posts: 360

Re: Idler

I repeat the comment I made earlier because no one responded. The problem 'long term delegation' I refer to is keeping the delegation of an idler going for a long time.  I have no problem with people who go on vacation, they can say how long they will be away. I have a problem with delegating idlers and keeping that delegation going for a very long time.

kevin551 wrote:

Here is a suggestion for ending the practice of long term delegation.

Maximum delegation of an idler is 7 turns.
People on vacation have to state when they will be back After that they become an idler with the 7 day limit.

Given that city trading is on, all cities except the capital can be passed to team mates. The capital city is still there in case the idler returns later.

I also suggest that the maximum number of manual overrides per team is set at 1. Just once for the entire game. (unless website delegation breaks down again.)

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#41 2013-07-08 04:10:33

xandr
Player
Posts: 54

Re: Idler

edrim wrote:
edrim wrote:
edrim wrote:

We have two idle players.
Please delegate elpollodiabolo and topyli to me.

Please delegate elpollodiabolo to edrim
Please delegate topyli to mrsynical

Please delegate elpollodiabolo to edrim
Please delegate xandr to mrsynical

Wow wow cowboy :-) hold on there. You seem to be slightly overreacting :-) I'll be back home in 5 hours and will make my move.

Last edited by xandr (2013-07-08 04:40:43)

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#42 2013-07-08 06:04:43

edrim
Ganoes Paran
Posts: 479

Re: Idler

xandr wrote:

Wow wow cowboy :-) hold on there. You seem to be slightly overreacting :-) I'll be back home in 5 hours and will make my move.

But it will be still after 3 days of starting a game:)

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#43 2013-07-08 08:13:19

Xercise
Player
Posts: 95

Re: Idler

Hasp93 is on vacation until th 12th or 14th July. Archont has agreed to take the delegation instead of me and akfaew made that change, so that we only control one player each (we have one idler also, namely Chuck, whom I control).
If we set a limit to the time to keep an idler, I think 7 turns is ok, but I may prefer a little longer, because what will happen with their cities when we are no longer allowed to control them? Would they become neutral, so we can take over the city? Or can we somehow do it so we can give away capital/sell palace?

Last edited by Xercise (2013-07-10 09:36:55)

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#44 2013-07-11 22:13:08

akfaew
Administrator
Posts: 622

Re: Idler

Kryon controls Dimitril, Kes_Of_Kobo. Delegate one of those to someone else. Why do people take on so many delegations? Maybe we should have a game with 8 players, where each one controls 8 nations of his own.

Xercise, I have no answers to you, I dont think this was ever done before. Propose what you think is best.

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#45 2013-07-11 22:52:50

mrsynical
Player
Posts: 171

Re: Idler

akfaew wrote:

Kryon controls Dimitril, Kes_Of_Kobo. Delegate one of those to someone else. Why do people take on so many delegations? Maybe we should have a game with 8 players, where each one controls 8 nations of his own.

Xercise, I have no answers to you, I dont think this was ever done before. Propose what you think is best.

It seems like we need an in-game votes?

My preference is:
1. Find a replacement player (even if a top gun player)
2. idlers should have those cities transferred to team-members. You just set instructions for that city (science production?) and just abandon the city until somebody potentially captures it in the future.

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#46 2013-07-12 04:16:57

kevin551
Player
Posts: 360

Re: Idler

To answer Xercise - idlers should not be killed. Their capital city should be left alive.
This means

1. The idler can come back
2. We can replace the idler from a substitution list.

The team can then give back the cities they took with city trading to the idler.

I think the signup list should be reopened so that we can get some new players to take over the idlers.

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#47 2013-07-12 07:34:04

Archont
Player
From: Kraków, Poland, age 35
Posts: 59

Re: Idler

I opt for reopening singups as well. Teams should get replacements for their idlers, if possible.


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#48 2013-07-12 14:31:09

Kryon
Administrator
Posts: 363

Re: Idler

I did explain it in the game yesterday. Dimitril sent me an email saying he is leaving for vacation until Monday and that he delegated to me. So I had no choice.

Can you please delegate Dimitril to Elrik and Kes of Kobo to Marduk.

Dimitril will be back on Monday but I'll be away from Monday until Saturday morning so I'll delegate to Dimitril on Sunday night.

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#49 2013-07-12 22:40:38

Archont
Player
From: Kraków, Poland, age 35
Posts: 59

Re: Idler

After some serious troubles with cooperation inside the team, el_perdedor quit the game in anger. Since my previous delegation (hasp93) already expired (he returned to the game on Friday), I ask for a delegation of Teutonic nation to myself.

EDIT: ok, it seems hasp has not cancelled delegation yet. So please wait a while.

EDIT 2: ok, the LT32 webpage informs me that I am relieved of my duty. So could you give me Teutons, please?

Last edited by Archont (2013-07-13 07:28:12)


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/(* *)  For always
./(_)()
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#50 2013-07-13 08:10:05

edrim
Ganoes Paran
Posts: 479

Re: Idler

Archont wrote:

After some serious troubles with cooperation inside the team, el_perdedor quit the game in anger. Since my previous delegation (hasp93) already expired (he returned to the game on Friday), I ask for a delegation of Teutonic nation to myself.


I dont know if manual delegation is good for the rest of a game, we have set it because somebody could go out before delegation system works good, now when player is going to vacations his duty is to set delegation for any of other team members.
If you have bad agreement with one of your players you should ask him to set delegation on some of your team, if he doesnt want to do it you will need to wait for him to be set as idle and try to get change for him. In your case he has been changed already and he has logged into a game couple of times.

Once again - I dont think manual admin delegation is good thing for future. We are creating another exploit of this system. If someone stop logging he will be set as idle after 10 turns and cut from a game or replacement (except he has wrote to vacation list and didnt set a delegation).

I am going to create restricted rules for all of you saying "what is not prohibited is permitted". Manual admin delegation will have one point on this rules. Of course this rules will be in poll for some time and we will need to agree for them.

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